Here is a table that I find very useful to quickly reference the Spey line offerings by RIO. This table allows me to quickly find out the length of and grain weight of each line type/model including the MOW tips. I though I will share it here.
Here is the link to the pdf file in RIO website:
http://cdn-tp2.mozu.com/15440-m1/cms/files/4c16fc29-bcf8-490f-94f1-802b90ba281d
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| RIO 2016 Spey Line Weight part 1 |
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| RIO 2016 Spey Line Weight part 2 |
For those interested in RIO sink tip specifications, they are available here:
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| http://cdn-tp2.mozu.com/15440-m1/cms/files/ae7a325e-6d72-42d9-a0d0-52982c6255cc |
Hi , thank you very much for all the great information ! I live in south florida and would like to learn to spey cast. I have a Sage tcx 7126 with Rio Outbound Short Tropical 510 grain 30 ft head and a clear intermediate tip. Im an experienced caster with a one handed rod but after several attempts at two handed casting after watching many videos and tutorials, Im having a very hard time with casting. Do you think I would have better luck with a different line ? When I try to do a switch cast or single spey, the anchor is very difficult to get out of the water. I have had a little success with the snap T. Should the fly be lifted to the top of the water before starting these casts ? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks !
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DeleteOutbound is not a good line for Spey casting due to its reverse taper. I strongly suggest you get a proper spey line to learn. It will greatly shorten your learning curve. For a 12'6" rod, I recommend RIO Skagit MAX (23' head) paired with a 15ft intermediate tip if you are Skagit/sustain anchor casting. If you plan to do Scandi touch-n-go casting, then choose the RIO Scandi Short versi tip.
Because you are using intermediate tip and sinking fly, you definitely should do an initial roll cast to bring the tip and fly to the top before attempting to switch cast/single Spey (unless you have current to buoy the fly up). The reason why you find Snap T difficult is most likely because of the reverse taper of your Outbound. Learning with a proper Spey line is the way to go.
Hi , thanks a lot for your help ! I ll try the lines you recommended.
ReplyDeleteHi Yuen Mah, thanks for the line recommendation. Ive been using the rio scandi short 460 grain with a sage tcx 7126 and a 4 inch unweighted fly. The sustained anchor casts are easy but not suitable for where i fish because of spooky fish. The underhand cast would be the best because of little room for a backcast. But its very difficult ! Do you think i should try a lighter line or smaller fly ? Maybe the tcx is not a good beginner rod ? Any advice is much appreciated. Thank you !
ReplyDeleteHi Brent. Good to hear that you are OK with the sustain anchor cast. I think 460 grain is OK for your rod for touch n go cast but I suspect that you need to extend your leader because your rod is long. If you are using 10ft versileader, add a tapered leader of at least 15ft (or even 20ft) to improve the anchoring. Also, try not to lift the rod tip too high during the anchor setting phase. This will maximize the depth of your D-loop. I think it will be best if you are able to use the 15ft versileader (they have been discontinued). Scandi touch n go casting requires longer head to cast well...unlike sustain anchor casting.
DeleteHi ! I ll try the longer leader. Thanks for the advice !
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